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Stupid Shizno · Nov 25, 2008, 12:14 AM // 00:14

After a discussion on vent, none of us can come up with a correct explanation and determination for this. What insignias on armors are global, if any.

eg. An ele puts +10 armor while enchanted on his arms rather then his chest, does this matter or no

The Meth · Nov 25, 2008, 12:58 AM // 00:58

All armor modifications, and -damage from knights are local to the armor piece. Every other effect doesn't really relate to improved armor so they are obviously global. The only insignia which I can see someone getting confused upon whether its global or not is tormentors (the +armor is local, the +damage from holy is global.)

EDIT: wiki says tormentors +damage from holy is local now. May have been changed, but wiki isn't always trustable.
EDITEDIT: official wiki says local, guildwiki says global. Who really cares?

ALF71BE · Nov 25, 2008, 01:04 AM // 01:04

I always thought insignias only added the armor bonus to the piece which they're applied to.

If you apply a +10 for the chest, then 37.5% of the time you should receive less damage from armor based damage sources.

OutlawFMA · Nov 25, 2008, 01:05 AM // 01:05

The only insignias that are global are Warriors Lieutenant's,Stonefist insigs and Necromancer's Bloodstained insig.

-Lotus- · Nov 25, 2008, 01:09 AM // 01:09

the only insignias that are global are the ones that could not be piece-only. such as stonefist, survivor's, radiant, ect.

ac1inferno · Nov 25, 2008, 03:00 AM // 03:00

I think if it says non-stacking, then it's global. If not, then local.

_Nihilist_ · Nov 25, 2008, 03:47 AM // 03:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by www.wiki.guildwars.com Official GW Wiki

A Lieutenant's Insignia is a warrior specific upgrade component that reduces the duration of hexes cast on you, reduces the damage you deal to foes and has 20 less armor. This bonus and damage penalty are global, while the armor penalty is local.

Put Lieutenant's insignia (if you have to use one, it's a waste imho) on either the Gloves or the Boots. Anything else and you are taking a chance on way more hits on a piece of armor with -20AL (Chest/Legs) or are just asking for a massive crit to land in your face (Helm).

Neither the Official or Unofficial Wikis state whether the 5% reduction in damage dealt by a Warrior with a Lieutenant's insignia on an armor piece only affects attack damage or if it also affects spell damage (like the damage reduction when using [[Shadow Form (PvE)]). I would venture to say that it is all damage - base weapon damage, bonus damage from skills, and damage dealt by spells (though not many Warriors are going to be using spells to deal damage), but I haven't tested this, as I don't use Lt's insignias at all (worthless).

The Meth · Nov 25, 2008, 04:39 AM // 04:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrael_Eveningsong

Neither the Official or Unofficial Wikis state whether the 5% reduction in damage dealt by a Warrior with a Lieutenant's insignia on an armor piece only affects attack damage or if it also affects spell damage (like the damage reduction when using [[Shadow Form (PvE)]). I would venture to say that it is all damage - base weapon damage, bonus damage from skills, and damage dealt by spells (though not many Warriors are going to be using spells to deal damage), but I haven't tested this, as I don't use Lt's insignias at all (worthless).

So THAT'S why my hamstorm build wasn't working well.

Dmitri3 · Dec 20, 2008, 09:41 PM // 21:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyrael_Eveningsong

Neither the Official or Unofficial Wikis state whether the 5% reduction in damage dealt by a Warrior with a Lieutenant's insignia on an armor piece only affects attack damage or if it also affects spell damage (like the damage reduction when using [[Shadow Form (PvE)]). I would venture to say that it is all damage - base weapon damage, bonus damage from skills, and damage dealt by spells (though not many Warriors are going to be using spells to deal damage), but I haven't tested this, as I don't use Lt's insignias at all (worthless).

Late to the rescue, but it's only base damage. +damage on attacks is not affected, nor is damage done by spells.